Tom van der Lubbe and Richard Atherton critique in this episode Mariana Mazzcuato’s Mission Economy.  Especially her views on how we might re-imagine the State. With Richard more sceptical of State-sponsored solutions and Tom with more social-democratic leanings, it makes for a fantastic conversation.

About Mission Economy*

Taking her inspiration from the ‘moonshot’ programmes which successfully co-ordinated public and private sectors on a massive scale, Mariana Mazzucato calls for the same level of boldness and experimentation to be applied to the biggest problems of our time. We must, she argues, rethink the capacities and role of government within the economy and society, and above all recover a sense of public purpose.

Mission Economy, whose ideas are already being adopted around the world, offers a way out of our impasse to a more optimistic future.

About Mariana Mazzucato*

Mariana Mazzucato is Professor in the Economics of Innovation and Public Value at University College London where she is Founding Director of the Institute for Innovation and Public Purpose. Her award-winning books include The Entrepreneurial State: Debunking Public vs. Private Sector Myths (2013) and The Value of Everything: Making and Taking in the Global Economy (2018).

*Source: Penquin Book